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		<title>By: Open Innovation in Government &#8211; elements of kosmos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open Innovation in Government &#8211; elements of kosmos</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Additionally, Doug spoke of participatory exploration (see Nick’s Presentation and an informal Transition Paper) and examples that have occurred at the project level (such as Stardust@Home, Clickworkers, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Notes From Up High &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How to Make Participatory Exploration Happen at NASA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notes From Up High &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How to Make Participatory Exploration Happen at NASA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sascha Tietz</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/01/07/nasa-participatory-exploration-policy-recommendations/comment-page-1/#comment-10654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sascha Tietz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks to all authors for putting this list of recommendations together. It is definitely a good starting point for discussions and the exchange of ideas. From my perspective there appears to be a lot of confusion regarding the term “participatory exploration”, because different people have different expectations related to participatory exploration.

For some people it appears to be not much more than a buzzword for public outreach, where the general public is just informed about what NASA is doing, why it’s doing this, and how it’s done. This can be done using a website, Twitter, or Facebook. Although these tools have been called a &quot;digital tool for collaboration&quot; in the paper, the information flow on Facebook, Twitter, and so on is usually restricted to one direction and the chances of obtaining feedback from the public are limited (e.g., direct messages, comments). That’s a first step, but from my point of view, participatory is more than just reading about NASA, it is the chance to be part of it. For the same reason projects like SETI@Home, Folding@Home, and Stardust@Home have to be excluded as well, because they are only using my personal (= time) or computational resources, without allowing a direct interaction between the public and the people running SETI or Stardust. 

But how do give people the chance to be part of NASA? This is a really tough question considering the generation “25 years and older”, also referred as taxpayers. For those people participatory exploration may really mean to just give them something, they are proud of paying for? Firstly, this requires for NASA to be in the newspapers not just with budget overruns or project delays, but with good news for a change. Secondly there are surely more possibilities, but my interest is participatory exploration for younger people.

Considering the generation “25 years and younger”, participatory exploration is – or better should be – part of education. I am totally agreeing with Chris’ post on how we got (and could get) young children inspired. Honestly, just show them the Moon and tell them that NASA had people walking up there! Show them rockets, airplanes, and all the fun stuff. Unfortunately NASA seems to loose touch with many of those children – being the future workforce - once they get older. And NASA supports that drift by only spending a very small amount of its education budget on projects with students in their late high school years or at universities. This from my point of view is strange, considering the vast amount of possibilities for actual participatory exploration at this point. One of those possibilities is the American Student Moon Orbiter (ASMO) concept (http://asmo.arc.nasa.gov), where students from allover the U.S. are supposed to design, built, test, launch, and operate their own spacecraft around the Moon. This means they really are an actual part of the exploration program, not just the audience for it. And maybe inspiring their children and supporting STEM education is considered “worth it” by the taxpayers as well. ;-)

P.S. Other federal agencies are already demonstrating the capabilities of participatory exploration with students (e.g., University Nanosat Program of the US Air Force (http://www.vs.afrl.af.mil/UNP/), Cubesat program of the National Science Foundation (http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2008/nsf08549/nsf08549.htm)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks to all authors for putting this list of recommendations together. It is definitely a good starting point for discussions and the exchange of ideas. From my perspective there appears to be a lot of confusion regarding the term “participatory exploration”, because different people have different expectations related to participatory exploration.</p>
<p>For some people it appears to be not much more than a buzzword for public outreach, where the general public is just informed about what NASA is doing, why it’s doing this, and how it’s done. This can be done using a website, Twitter, or Facebook. Although these tools have been called a &#8220;digital tool for collaboration&#8221; in the paper, the information flow on Facebook, Twitter, and so on is usually restricted to one direction and the chances of obtaining feedback from the public are limited (e.g., direct messages, comments). That’s a first step, but from my point of view, participatory is more than just reading about NASA, it is the chance to be part of it. For the same reason projects like <a href="mailto:SETI@Home">SETI@Home</a>, <a href="mailto:Folding@Home">Folding@Home</a>, and <a href="mailto:Stardust@Home">Stardust@Home</a> have to be excluded as well, because they are only using my personal (= time) or computational resources, without allowing a direct interaction between the public and the people running SETI or Stardust. </p>
<p>But how do give people the chance to be part of NASA? This is a really tough question considering the generation “25 years and older”, also referred as taxpayers. For those people participatory exploration may really mean to just give them something, they are proud of paying for? Firstly, this requires for NASA to be in the newspapers not just with budget overruns or project delays, but with good news for a change. Secondly there are surely more possibilities, but my interest is participatory exploration for younger people.</p>
<p>Considering the generation “25 years and younger”, participatory exploration is – or better should be – part of education. I am totally agreeing with Chris’ post on how we got (and could get) young children inspired. Honestly, just show them the Moon and tell them that NASA had people walking up there! Show them rockets, airplanes, and all the fun stuff. Unfortunately NASA seems to loose touch with many of those children – being the future workforce &#8211; once they get older. And NASA supports that drift by only spending a very small amount of its education budget on projects with students in their late high school years or at universities. This from my point of view is strange, considering the vast amount of possibilities for actual participatory exploration at this point. One of those possibilities is the American Student Moon Orbiter (ASMO) concept (<a href="http://asmo.arc.nasa.gov" rel="nofollow">http://asmo.arc.nasa.gov</a>), where students from allover the U.S. are supposed to design, built, test, launch, and operate their own spacecraft around the Moon. This means they really are an actual part of the exploration program, not just the audience for it. And maybe inspiring their children and supporting STEM education is considered “worth it” by the taxpayers as well. <img src='http://www.opennasa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>P.S. Other federal agencies are already demonstrating the capabilities of participatory exploration with students (e.g., University Nanosat Program of the US Air Force (<a href="http://www.vs.afrl.af.mil/UNP/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vs.afrl.af.mil/UNP/</a>), Cubesat program of the National Science Foundation (<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2008/nsf08549/nsf08549.htm)" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2008/n.....08549.htm)</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Library: A Round-up of Reading &#171; Res Communis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Library: A Round-up of Reading &#171; Res Communis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Mealling</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/01/07/nasa-participatory-exploration-policy-recommendations/comment-page-1/#comment-10240</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mealling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erika&#039;s comment above made me realize the hole in that report that was bugging me. &quot;“go out and share your story.” is perfect for someone involved with a speaker&#039;s bureau but on thing that&#039;s really missing is &quot;listen to others sharing their stories&quot;. 

The paper is very focused on NASA allowing public participation in its programs (which I greatly applaud and support) which is fine. But I&#039;d love to see some verbage about NASA participation going the other way: make it easier for NASA employees and projects to participate in activities organized and run by others (be they individuals or organizations). I think that might help mitigate any Not Invented Here syndrome as well. 

IPP had (has?) a program last year where NASA employees could participate in &quot;externships&quot; with other organizations for up to a year. That way the organization could benefit from NASA&#039;s perspective but NASA gets to learn new ways of doing things. That&#039;s a little &quot;heavy&quot; for what you&#039;re talking about in that paper but it does get NASA out and into other people&#039;s projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika&#8217;s comment above made me realize the hole in that report that was bugging me. &#8220;“go out and share your story.” is perfect for someone involved with a speaker&#8217;s bureau but on thing that&#8217;s really missing is &#8220;listen to others sharing their stories&#8221;. </p>
<p>The paper is very focused on NASA allowing public participation in its programs (which I greatly applaud and support) which is fine. But I&#8217;d love to see some verbage about NASA participation going the other way: make it easier for NASA employees and projects to participate in activities organized and run by others (be they individuals or organizations). I think that might help mitigate any Not Invented Here syndrome as well. </p>
<p>IPP had (has?) a program last year where NASA employees could participate in &#8220;externships&#8221; with other organizations for up to a year. That way the organization could benefit from NASA&#8217;s perspective but NASA gets to learn new ways of doing things. That&#8217;s a little &#8220;heavy&#8221; for what you&#8217;re talking about in that paper but it does get NASA out and into other people&#8217;s projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/01/07/nasa-participatory-exploration-policy-recommendations/comment-page-1/#comment-10226</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s already been identified that we need more participatory exploration, here are a few videos prepared for the 2nd Space Exploration Conference in 2006 that highlight the lack of knowledge about NASA and space in general.  It is a 4-part series, so make sure to check out the other segments on YouTube.  Simply search &quot;Spacewalking Episode 1 of 4&quot; on YouTube if this link does not work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXroUTAdQA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s already been identified that we need more participatory exploration, here are a few videos prepared for the 2nd Space Exploration Conference in 2006 that highlight the lack of knowledge about NASA and space in general.  It is a 4-part series, so make sure to check out the other segments on YouTube.  Simply search &#8220;Spacewalking Episode 1 of 4&#8243; on YouTube if this link does not work for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXroUTAdQA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXroUTAdQA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/01/07/nasa-participatory-exploration-policy-recommendations/comment-page-1/#comment-10225</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My earlier post spoke of participatory exploration in terms of communication and inspiration with the younger generations.  Below is a link to one of the most successful, yet under-utilized programs in the &quot;younger generations&quot; category.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/podcasting/nasaedge/explorationpodcast.html

I was first introduced to this podcast competition during the AIAA 2nd Space Exploration Conference in Houston, TX, in December 2006.  It provides students in various age categories the opportunity to develop and submit an audio or video podcast related to NASA and its work.  These entries were presented to the audience at the AIAA conference and winners were selected by these audience members.

That is where this event stopped.  You could view some of the winners online, but only if you knew where to look to find the information.  Since then, the website has been brought down and www.explorationpodcast.com no longer provides information about this competition or links to the past winners.

This competition was (I&#039;m assuming it is no longer held) a perfect example of participatory exploration.  It was students creating NASA podcasts for other students.

NASA asked the younger generation to participate and relate their knowledge of NASA&#039;s mission to other students.  Unfortunately, in my opinion, NASA did not hold up to its end of the bargain.

First, the Exploration Podcast webpage had a big disclaimer at the bottom of the page alienating NASA&#039;s association with the competition.  Why is the agency afraid to associate themselves with anything that may remotely resemble advertisement?  

Second, there was no significant publicity or effort to distribute or display the resultant podcasts.  When I e-mailed the organizers of this competition to ask about donating materials which could be used to mass distribute the podcasts to local schools, the answer was typical of many of NASA&#039;s most phenomenal educational outreach programs:

&quot;Even if we had CDs or other media which could be used to distribute the materials from this competition, we do not have the budget to pay someone to burn the CDs.&quot;

So how could this play into participatory exploration?  Simple.  Examine the phenomenal programs that are already in place, evaluate their potential, eliminate the money pits, and invest the small amount of money necessary to distribute the free publicity that was generated by the age group NASA so desperately wants to reach.

Another great example of wasted publicity is the NASA Means Business competition.  Some of the best, 30-second commercials in support of NASA go unseen each year as there is no centralized, easily accessible means of viewing these videos.

Once again, my point is simple.  Examine the programs already in place before creating a slew of new programs with the explanation &quot;NASA needs to reach out.&quot;  Chances are we might find that NASA is already reaching out, but pulling their hand away at the last second and saying &quot;Psych!&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My earlier post spoke of participatory exploration in terms of communication and inspiration with the younger generations.  Below is a link to one of the most successful, yet under-utilized programs in the &#8220;younger generations&#8221; category.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/podcasting/nasaedge/explorationpodcast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia.....dcast.html</a></p>
<p>I was first introduced to this podcast competition during the AIAA 2nd Space Exploration Conference in Houston, TX, in December 2006.  It provides students in various age categories the opportunity to develop and submit an audio or video podcast related to NASA and its work.  These entries were presented to the audience at the AIAA conference and winners were selected by these audience members.</p>
<p>That is where this event stopped.  You could view some of the winners online, but only if you knew where to look to find the information.  Since then, the website has been brought down and <a href="http://www.explorationpodcast.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.explorationpodcast.com</a> no longer provides information about this competition or links to the past winners.</p>
<p>This competition was (I&#8217;m assuming it is no longer held) a perfect example of participatory exploration.  It was students creating NASA podcasts for other students.</p>
<p>NASA asked the younger generation to participate and relate their knowledge of NASA&#8217;s mission to other students.  Unfortunately, in my opinion, NASA did not hold up to its end of the bargain.</p>
<p>First, the Exploration Podcast webpage had a big disclaimer at the bottom of the page alienating NASA&#8217;s association with the competition.  Why is the agency afraid to associate themselves with anything that may remotely resemble advertisement?  </p>
<p>Second, there was no significant publicity or effort to distribute or display the resultant podcasts.  When I e-mailed the organizers of this competition to ask about donating materials which could be used to mass distribute the podcasts to local schools, the answer was typical of many of NASA&#8217;s most phenomenal educational outreach programs:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if we had CDs or other media which could be used to distribute the materials from this competition, we do not have the budget to pay someone to burn the CDs.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how could this play into participatory exploration?  Simple.  Examine the phenomenal programs that are already in place, evaluate their potential, eliminate the money pits, and invest the small amount of money necessary to distribute the free publicity that was generated by the age group NASA so desperately wants to reach.</p>
<p>Another great example of wasted publicity is the NASA Means Business competition.  Some of the best, 30-second commercials in support of NASA go unseen each year as there is no centralized, easily accessible means of viewing these videos.</p>
<p>Once again, my point is simple.  Examine the programs already in place before creating a slew of new programs with the explanation &#8220;NASA needs to reach out.&#8221;  Chances are we might find that NASA is already reaching out, but pulling their hand away at the last second and saying &#8220;Psych!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Shiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Shiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read this report, but my suggestions regarding &quot;participatory exploration&quot; would include more than NASA&#039;s adoption of open standards and Web 2.0 technologies (which are important).  Participatory exploration should provide a means for people in geographically distinct locations to become a part of NASA.  This could range from school children controlling a camera of a rover on Mars or engaging in a video chat with an astronaut on the ISS to scientists, engineers, and decision-makers using collaboration technologies to work better on NASA projects no matter where they are.  I think the education and outreach angle of participatory education is obvious, but the professional collaboration dimension to it may be overlooked.  Not only can this help to tear down the barriers and fiefdoms that exist among the NASA field centers, it could potentially open up the NASA workforce significantly to include people in industry, academia, other government agencies, other countries, etc.  Maybe in the future, one won&#039;t even have to relocate to a NASA center when accepting a job there.  Instead, you can live almost anywhere and just connect with your colleagues virtually.  This is &quot;participatory exploration&quot; to me - breaking down geographic barriers to inclusion in NASA projects, at any level of involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read this report, but my suggestions regarding &#8220;participatory exploration&#8221; would include more than NASA&#8217;s adoption of open standards and Web 2.0 technologies (which are important).  Participatory exploration should provide a means for people in geographically distinct locations to become a part of NASA.  This could range from school children controlling a camera of a rover on Mars or engaging in a video chat with an astronaut on the ISS to scientists, engineers, and decision-makers using collaboration technologies to work better on NASA projects no matter where they are.  I think the education and outreach angle of participatory education is obvious, but the professional collaboration dimension to it may be overlooked.  Not only can this help to tear down the barriers and fiefdoms that exist among the NASA field centers, it could potentially open up the NASA workforce significantly to include people in industry, academia, other government agencies, other countries, etc.  Maybe in the future, one won&#8217;t even have to relocate to a NASA center when accepting a job there.  Instead, you can live almost anywhere and just connect with your colleagues virtually.  This is &#8220;participatory exploration&#8221; to me &#8211; breaking down geographic barriers to inclusion in NASA projects, at any level of involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Cowing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Cowing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sheer number of things that were omitted from this paper causes me to wonder whether the authors truly understand the scope and breadth of things NASA has been doing (for decades) which either already fit into &quot;participatory exploration&quot; or are ripe for modification such that they fit the bill. There is much more than Mars analogs being omitted.  &quot;Participatory exploration&quot; may be a new buzzword but in many ways it describes things that NASA has been doing for quite some time.  The Apollo 11 TV coverage stunned a number of people at the time - the thought that you could see it actually happening - live - brought people closer to space than had ever been the case before. It was like being there, you  know &quot;participating&quot; .... Then again, none of you Gen Y folks were around then ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sheer number of things that were omitted from this paper causes me to wonder whether the authors truly understand the scope and breadth of things NASA has been doing (for decades) which either already fit into &#8220;participatory exploration&#8221; or are ripe for modification such that they fit the bill. There is much more than Mars analogs being omitted.  &#8220;Participatory exploration&#8221; may be a new buzzword but in many ways it describes things that NASA has been doing for quite some time.  The Apollo 11 TV coverage stunned a number of people at the time &#8211; the thought that you could see it actually happening &#8211; live &#8211; brought people closer to space than had ever been the case before. It was like being there, you  know &#8220;participating&#8221; &#8230;. Then again, none of you Gen Y folks were around then <img src='http://www.opennasa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inaccuracy was in your accusation that the paper didn&#039;t mention those who do it and that none of the authors have actually done it.  I think you over-reached there.  What&#039;s really going on here is that you think there was an oversight in not mentioning activities like those on Devon Island.  

That&#039;s fine, and I think that is a fair point.  I think the Mars analogue excursions are an excellent example of participatory exploration.  However, that is not the same thing as not giving credit to others at all, which is what you seemed to be insinuating.  

I&#039;ll let the authors who helped put CoLab together and that were directly involved in it speak for themselves on that matter.  For example, the most recent posting on how to make participatory exploration happen addresses that issue better than I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inaccuracy was in your accusation that the paper didn&#8217;t mention those who do it and that none of the authors have actually done it.  I think you over-reached there.  What&#8217;s really going on here is that you think there was an oversight in not mentioning activities like those on Devon Island.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine, and I think that is a fair point.  I think the Mars analogue excursions are an excellent example of participatory exploration.  However, that is not the same thing as not giving credit to others at all, which is what you seemed to be insinuating.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let the authors who helped put CoLab together and that were directly involved in it speak for themselves on that matter.  For example, the most recent posting on how to make participatory exploration happen addresses that issue better than I could.</p>
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