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	<title>Comments on: The Benac Orbit, Kepler&#8217;s Follow On</title>
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		<title>By: John Benac</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/03/08/the-benac-orbit-keplers-follow-on/comment-page-1/#comment-25660</link>
		<dc:creator>John Benac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would explain it, but Google does a better job. Basically, If I take a reading at 1 second and a reading at 2 seconds in a different location, I combine the readings as if I had twice the measurement instruments. If what you are looking at doesn&#039;t change with time, then this works.

So if you combine the readings of a satellite as it passes over the crater and combine them all, it would be as if you has a linear array of antennas that were as long as the path that the satellite flew on. At least that is my understanding of the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would explain it, but Google does a better job. Basically, If I take a reading at 1 second and a reading at 2 seconds in a different location, I combine the readings as if I had twice the measurement instruments. If what you are looking at doesn&#8217;t change with time, then this works.</p>
<p>So if you combine the readings of a satellite as it passes over the crater and combine them all, it would be as if you has a linear array of antennas that were as long as the path that the satellite flew on. At least that is my understanding of the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Huggan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Huggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.  Space time adaptive processing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  Space time adaptive processing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Benac</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/03/08/the-benac-orbit-keplers-follow-on/comment-page-1/#comment-25558</link>
		<dc:creator>John Benac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a dish is &quot;smooth&quot; as far as the electromagnetic radiation is concerned as long as the disturbances are smaller than half the wavelength that you are using the dish for.

Also, a rough crater that has only 10 percent of it&#039;s surface reflecting back toward the feed but is 200 times bigger than a conventional dish will still get you more photons, which is what it all comes down to in the end.

So a rough crater on Ceres, with it&#039;s topography understood, can be a dish when raytracing, space time adaptive processing (STAP), and interferometry is used with an array of feed elements whose geometry is also known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a dish is &#8220;smooth&#8221; as far as the electromagnetic radiation is concerned as long as the disturbances are smaller than half the wavelength that you are using the dish for.</p>
<p>Also, a rough crater that has only 10 percent of it&#8217;s surface reflecting back toward the feed but is 200 times bigger than a conventional dish will still get you more photons, which is what it all comes down to in the end.</p>
<p>So a rough crater on Ceres, with it&#8217;s topography understood, can be a dish when raytracing, space time adaptive processing (STAP), and interferometry is used with an array of feed elements whose geometry is also known.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Huggan</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2009/03/08/the-benac-orbit-keplers-follow-on/comment-page-1/#comment-25446</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Huggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a sketchy idea a while back that you use a farside Lunar Impact Crater for radio astronomy.  This is already analyzed but uses an expensive and currently impossible &quot;tarp&quot; across the crater.  I was thinking a &quot;Peace Symbol&quot; of three strips of &quot;vitrified&quot; Lunar soil could be created from crater rim to interior (I thought lenses NASA knows a microwave rover)...
It was pointed out, not very conclusively, the crater curvature isn&#039;t homogenous or shaped right to make this work.  If that is true long radiowaves are picky, wouldn&#039;t the roughness of Ceres&#039;s surface ruin this concept?  Or does all the water overcome this?  Or was a satellite team member BS-ing me and radiowave aren&#039;t picky?

As an aside if you are doing a google search about why a cloud satellite named CERES was cancelled/postponed, it is really hard when there is an asteroid and another satellite mission with the same name.  Lots of 5 letter words out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a sketchy idea a while back that you use a farside Lunar Impact Crater for radio astronomy.  This is already analyzed but uses an expensive and currently impossible &#8220;tarp&#8221; across the crater.  I was thinking a &#8220;Peace Symbol&#8221; of three strips of &#8220;vitrified&#8221; Lunar soil could be created from crater rim to interior (I thought lenses NASA knows a microwave rover)&#8230;<br />
It was pointed out, not very conclusively, the crater curvature isn&#8217;t homogenous or shaped right to make this work.  If that is true long radiowaves are picky, wouldn&#8217;t the roughness of Ceres&#8217;s surface ruin this concept?  Or does all the water overcome this?  Or was a satellite team member BS-ing me and radiowave aren&#8217;t picky?</p>
<p>As an aside if you are doing a google search about why a cloud satellite named CERES was cancelled/postponed, it is really hard when there is an asteroid and another satellite mission with the same name.  Lots of 5 letter words out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Darnell Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darnell Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh! That is a very interesting view of Ceres! I always saw it as a launching pad for mining the asteroid belt (since we assume it has water within it, which could make it &quot;livable&quot;).

Perhaps it could also serve as a communications hub as well. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh! That is a very interesting view of Ceres! I always saw it as a launching pad for mining the asteroid belt (since we assume it has water within it, which could make it &#8220;livable&#8221;).</p>
<p>Perhaps it could also serve as a communications hub as well. <img src='http://www.opennasa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The 94th Carnival of Space - Out of the Cradle</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 94th Carnival of Space - Out of the Cradle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for a huge dish to listen in on the extrasolar planets to be found by the Kepler mission in &#8216;The Benac Orbit, Kepler’s Follow On&#8216;. Paul at the Meridiani Journal gives us a unique view of the launch of the Kepler mission in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for a huge dish to listen in on the extrasolar planets to be found by the Kepler mission in &#8216;The Benac Orbit, Kepler’s Follow On&#8216;. Paul at the Meridiani Journal gives us a unique view of the launch of the Kepler mission in [...]</p>
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