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		<title>Comment on LAUNCH Water Day 1 Recap by LAUNCH Water Day 1 &#171; Bethbeck&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/19/launch-water-day-1-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-44601</link>
		<dc:creator>LAUNCH Water Day 1 &#171; Bethbeck&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on OpenNASA.    Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Heavenly Answers for Earthly [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on the context is decisive by CharlesBramucci</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/02/02/the-context-is-decisive/comment-page-1/#comment-44600</link>
		<dc:creator>CharlesBramucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rivers, you obviously are in a conversation of the future and I love the context you have created here.  It surely is the responsibility of all of us to generate the world from our word.  And, given that that isn&#039;t (at least for now) the nature of conversations in the world, I declare - therein make real - that you are a leader, a teacher and an inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rivers, you obviously are in a conversation of the future and I love the context you have created here.  It surely is the responsibility of all of us to generate the world from our word.  And, given that that isn&#8217;t (at least for now) the nature of conversations in the world, I declare &#8211; therein make real &#8211; that you are a leader, a teacher and an inspiration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Participation, Not Just Open Information by Tim846</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/11/open-participation-not-just-open-information/comment-page-1/#comment-44593</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim846</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highly impressive!  Thank you for taking the time to break these things down into digestible pieces AND to put them where we can point to them in the future.  I&#039;m going to review, reflect, and then respond further.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highly impressive!  Thank you for taking the time to break these things down into digestible pieces AND to put them where we can point to them in the future.  I&#8217;m going to review, reflect, and then respond further.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Participation, Not Just Open Information by BD</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/11/open-participation-not-just-open-information/comment-page-1/#comment-44591</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen:

Great topic! I have already posted my comments on NASA&#039;s idea site here: http://opennasa.ideascale.com/a/dtd/33386-7044 and have a slightly windier version here: http://bartacus.blogspot.com/2010/02/collaborative-government-and-space-in.html

My comments generally apply to your point about &quot;keeping the investors happy.&quot; If you have any thoughts about the posting, I&#039;d be happy to hear them.

Salud,

/b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen:</p>
<p>Great topic! I have already posted my comments on NASA&#8217;s idea site here: <a href="http://opennasa.ideascale.com/a/dtd/33386-7044" rel="nofollow">http://opennasa.ideascale.com/a/dtd/33386-7044</a> and have a slightly windier version here: <a href="http://bartacus.blogspot.com/2010/02/collaborative-government-and-space-in.html" rel="nofollow">http://bartacus.blogspot.com/2.....ce-in.html</a></p>
<p>My comments generally apply to your point about &#8220;keeping the investors happy.&#8221; If you have any thoughts about the posting, I&#8217;d be happy to hear them.</p>
<p>Salud,</p>
<p>/b</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Participation, Not Just Open Information by Darlene</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/11/open-participation-not-just-open-information/comment-page-1/#comment-44589</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent. I&#039;m hopeful we&#039;ll start seeing concrete examples of what you&#039;ve described. I especially found useful the suggestion that we create a process to share information on projects via academic publications. That may very well be what shifts the paradigm a bit. I&#039;m not sure the science community takes seriously public participation (or wants it) so the vision of one of them opening a favorite journal only to find an article about research spawned by someone from the great unwashed masses is a hoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent. I&#8217;m hopeful we&#8217;ll start seeing concrete examples of what you&#8217;ve described. I especially found useful the suggestion that we create a process to share information on projects via academic publications. That may very well be what shifts the paradigm a bit. I&#8217;m not sure the science community takes seriously public participation (or wants it) so the vision of one of them opening a favorite journal only to find an article about research spawned by someone from the great unwashed masses is a hoot!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Technology by ssteiner</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/05/open-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-44585</link>
		<dc:creator>ssteiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim--your question is a good one.  We&#039;ve been wrestling with this on Aerogel.org for some time.  I&#039;ve got some ideas that I&#039;ll write up in a new post and maybe we can start a more in-depth conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim&#8211;your question is a good one.  We&#8217;ve been wrestling with this on Aerogel.org for some time.  I&#8217;ve got some ideas that I&#8217;ll write up in a new post and maybe we can start a more in-depth conversation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Answers for Earthly Problems by Tim846</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/09/heavenly-answers-for-earthly-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-44584</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim846</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet!  Thanks for posting.  I had seen the release but didn&#039;t *really* understand what the event was all about.  I&#039;ll work to get my media pass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet!  Thanks for posting.  I had seen the release but didn&#8217;t *really* understand what the event was all about.  I&#8217;ll work to get my media pass!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Technology by Tim846</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/05/open-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-44583</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim846</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stevie!

Awesome to see you posting here.  Great topic!  And now, some detailed questions (now that you have my mind working):

I&#039;d love to hear ideas on moving from the &quot;open = transparency&quot; model to an &quot;open = participatory&quot; model.

[Transparency being where processes and technologies are sufficiently explained so that others can understand what is happening and, potentially, replicate those processes and recreate the technologies independently.

Participatory being where someone who is actively using the technology/process has the opportunity to collaborate with other users and make improvements to a process or technology  in such a way that they can be incorporated into future iterations by the community.] 

Basically, how do you stop talking TO people and start talking WITH them about what&#039;s going on?  When does someone stop being a student of the process experts and become their colleague?  How do you foster innovation in a community where there are vastly different levels of knowledge and experience?

With computer software, it is easy for anyone to download a software development kit and tinker: all it takes is a computer, bandwidth, and time.  If they don&#039;t get their Linux kernel to compile, no big deal!  When working with rocket engines (or cryogenics), the barrier to entry is much higher and the risks of failure can be much greater.  

Do you think that barriers to entry will affect the type of people able to participate in technology development?  If so, is it really &quot;open&quot; at all?

[Also, I think I ate too much sugar today!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stevie!</p>
<p>Awesome to see you posting here.  Great topic!  And now, some detailed questions (now that you have my mind working):</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear ideas on moving from the &#8220;open = transparency&#8221; model to an &#8220;open = participatory&#8221; model.</p>
<p>[Transparency being where processes and technologies are sufficiently explained so that others can understand what is happening and, potentially, replicate those processes and recreate the technologies independently.</p>
<p>Participatory being where someone who is actively using the technology/process has the opportunity to collaborate with other users and make improvements to a process or technology  in such a way that they can be incorporated into future iterations by the community.] </p>
<p>Basically, how do you stop talking TO people and start talking WITH them about what&#8217;s going on?  When does someone stop being a student of the process experts and become their colleague?  How do you foster innovation in a community where there are vastly different levels of knowledge and experience?</p>
<p>With computer software, it is easy for anyone to download a software development kit and tinker: all it takes is a computer, bandwidth, and time.  If they don&#8217;t get their Linux kernel to compile, no big deal!  When working with rocket engines (or cryogenics), the barrier to entry is much higher and the risks of failure can be much greater.  </p>
<p>Do you think that barriers to entry will affect the type of people able to participate in technology development?  If so, is it really &#8220;open&#8221; at all?</p>
<p>[Also, I think I ate too much sugar today!]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Answers for Earthly Problems by Heavenly Answers for Earthly Problems &#171; Bethbeck&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/09/heavenly-answers-for-earthly-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-44580</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavenly Answers for Earthly Problems &#171; Bethbeck&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on OpenNASA and GovLoop. C  Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Innovation, Healthcare &amp; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Open Technology by one</title>
		<link>http://www.opennasa.com/2010/03/05/open-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-44568</link>
		<dc:creator>one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--
my &quot;Houston, You Have A Problem&quot; article explains the right way to solve the NASA problems
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http://www.newspaceagency.com/articles/04youhaveaproblem.html
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my &#8220;Houston, You Have A Problem&#8221; article explains the right way to solve the NASA problems<br />
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<a href="http://www.newspaceagency.com/articles/04youhaveaproblem.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newspaceagency.com/.....oblem.html</a><br />
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